If this was as simple as refusal to pay off a debt then the situation would be far different. But it is not. It isn't your high street banking system. It is not about cash from cash machines but about a globalised finance industry imposing it's desires on 7 billion and counting. Yeah I know that's a drama queen sentence but under the complex layers of invention it's what it all boils down to. The situation in Greece is a symptom of a global system and we in Europe should remember that and not see this in terms of it's impact on the Eurozone/EU but as a reaction to the ever growing power and control of the finance industry over everything, everywhere. The needs and requirements of corporations and shareholders have pre-eminence over the needs and requirements of people. To my mind a fundamental imbalance. And when did any of us have a say on this? Don't give me nonsense about elections, it's not about national elections, it's grown beyond national boundaries - when was there a global vote on any of this? People are becoming ever more powerless, without influence and voice on the structures that control their lives Pinko, lefty idealism - possibly, 1%-v-99% Anonymous style sloganisms - maybe. But brevity has never been a strong point of mine

and trying to explain myself in one paragraph hasn't been easy

. I very much doubt that the reason any Greek person voted the right way was because they felt the way I do but in effect they stuck two fingers up to all of that and that is why I salute the Greeks for taking a stance.
Reading back, my use of the words "UKIP thought on a big scale" was somewhat sweeping and I should have been more precise and said Anti-foreigner. I'll further clarify that I was trying to relate the views of pretty much everyone I'd discussed this with that day. I also specifically stated they were simplistic solutions. I have not suggested that a different view to mine was automatically "Ukip".I was, albeit clumsily, trying to paint a picture of what I was hearing and I'm afraid to say that a couple of days later it's pretty much the same. I will admit that this probably says more about south east England than it does about the Greek situation.
In his 2nd post JS raised the issue of sustainability and this is a very important seemingly unaddressed issue. If a system can't be supported now then how on earth can it be supported in a future that assumes growth just to finance current debt?
The results and repercussions of the whole thing are still being played out. The game hasn't finished yet has it? Which of us really knows what each interested party has to do to shore up it's defences?
I'm neither an international financier nor am I Greek. So none of this has an immediate impact on me or my life. I can afford to sit here and pontificate

Pensioners in Greece probably can't
