Calais higher wall as our bastard children come home

[Bunny]

Excellent points Anna and well explained.
*doffs cap.

[Johnz]

Saw this Daily Mail news article from 1938 today:

"German Jews pouring into this country

The way stateless Jews and Germans are pouring in from every port of this country is becoming an outrage. I intend to enforce the law to the fullest."

In these words, Mr Herbert Metcalde, the Old Street Magistrate yesterday referred to the number of aliens entering this country through the 'back door' -- a problem to which The Daily Mail has repeatedly pointed.

The number of aliens entering this country can be seen by the number of prosecutions in recent months. It is very difficult for the alien to escape the increasing vigilance of the police and port authorities.

Even if aliens manage to break through the defences, it is not long before they are caught and deported."

Looks like we've been here before.

[Shush]

Interesting read Anna. I suppose its also worth considering that 150,000 Brits leave the UK each year filling up areas such as the South of Spain piling on pressure to their health system / resources. Its not completely all one way.

[Bunny]

Good(?) to see the Daily Mail hasnt changed in its garbage. I mistakenly said today it wanted us to return to 1950. Clearly its 1850.....

That aside. I still stand for asylum for those in genuine need, as Im sure most do. The EU is a seperate argument. But yeah. If its gonna be open borders then the door has to go both ways. Funny the uk exodus is seldom mentioned though.

[ldopas]

We also need to be clear on who we are talking about. Asylum seekers and Refugees are different to those who move on economic grounds. A very important distinction.

Yepp, there can be few complaints about that! Those in GENUINE fear of their lives should be given safe harbour, we must stand for that.

I see the Mail is getting a bashing again! 

Personally I read the Mail, Guardian, Independent, Times and anything else I have time for as I find the truth is never in one of them, but a complex mix usually. Personally I think if you dismiss wholly everything a news outlet says then you are at risk of missing something for the sake of your own political expediency. That is my personal opinion! 

[Bunny]

I read an array of papers online but very seldomly. Just cant abide the Mail's Little England approach , when it then proceeds to rubbish everything in England. Equally the letters in are hate filled nonsense from the betterthanthems. I can pretty much make my own mind up on most things without editorial slants. Equally cant abide the Grauniads left wing hate everything state related slant. Im in the middle of the see saw.

[Shush]

IMO in the same way cigarettes carry health warnings, food packaging declares the sugar/ fat content, newspapers should have a coloured box along the top of the front page declaring their political party elegance be it blue or red. After all plenty of people do believe everything  they read. 

[Anna Woman von NRW]

I see the Mail is getting a bashing again! 

Yes and as usual, thoroughly deserved. A spade is a spade and we all know what that vile publication spews out each day.

[Pol]

Hello,

I just signed the petition, "Rt Hon David Cameron MP: Provide urgent medical support to vulnerable people in Calais."

I think this is important. Will you sign it too?

Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/p/rt-hon-david-cameron-mp-provide-urgent-medical-support-to-vulnerable-people-in-calais

Thanks,

pol

[ldopas]

I see the Mail is getting a bashing again! 

Yes and as usual, thoroughly deserved. A spade is a spade and we all know what that vile publication spews out each day.

That is an opinion based on a personal view and bias. You are of course entitled to it, but many don't think like that and it don't make it a fact! 

I'm with Drummyb. Im not a fan of the Mail, but the Guardian is the left wing version of that. 

[ldopas]

Interesting read Anna. I suppose its also worth considering that 150,000 Brits leave the UK each year filling up areas such as the South of Spain piling on pressure to their health system / resources. Its not completely all one way.

Well not quite. the rules for settling in Spain and claiming are VERY different from ours, many health services have to be paid for. Also many who go over there are pensioners and take their state pensions paid from the UK exchequer over to Spain to spending in their economy.

No picture is ever black and white!!! 

[Master Ray]

OK, this is me on a paranoid theory thing again... but this whole 'UK is gonna be swamped with Africans who want to get free houses and free money and, I dunno, eat our pets or whatever' thing that's so prevalent in our media nowadays... doesn't it all seem a bit choreographed?  I mean, this stuff has been going on for ages and in true fact, other countries have taken far more immigrants in than the UK... but them black people are swarming at the gate, it's Zulu all over again, someone bring in Stanley Baker and Michael Caine!   

Could it be that the Tory controlled media are throwing this shit up to distract the easily-scared UK populace from the REAL bad things that they're doing, you know, ending tax credits and putting more young adults into poverty at the start of their lives so they'll always be indebted and scrabbling for scraps for the whole of their lives whilst the top couple of %%s cnuts dine on fuckin' swans or something?

OK, went off on one there... excuse me while I put my tin foil hat on again.

 

[Bunny]

Actually MR im with you on it. If you feed peoples fears and give them a new enemy, you can cover a multitude of sins. In a months time, nothing will be written about Calais, but it wont have changed. As it hasnt in the months before now.

And the ones most screwed over, the poorer end of society, will be the ones blaming the "foreigners" as much as the middle classes.

[Pol]

I thought they used swans to wipe their mf arses. Sadly even the Greeks are taking in more people than us

[Anna Woman von NRW]

I see the Mail is getting a bashing again! 

Yes and as usual, thoroughly deserved. A spade is a spade and we all know what that vile publication spews out each day.

That is an opinion based on a personal view and bias. You are of course entitled to it, but many don't think like that and it don't make it a fact! 

I'm with Drummyb. Im not a fan of the Mail, but the Guardian is the left wing version of that.

Opinion = Yes
Bias = No
Fact = Open to dispute

Guardian, Independent, Al-Jazerra, New York Times, BBC, New York Post, Jerusalem Times, Kent Today : It's all angles of vision