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Anna Woman von NRW

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Re: Calais higher wall as our bastard children come home
« Reply #60 on: August 20, 2015, 09:42:44 PM »
Thing is ldopas you are posting about your assumptions of folks bias which, incidentally, is defined in the Oxford dictionary as "inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group, especially in a way considered to be unfair". And whilst I've never talked for anyone else I don't believe my opinion of the Daily Mail is unfair. You may well disagree but that is your opinion and preorgative it is not bias. I'm 45 and have had more than my fill of what that business has to say and in particular go google what they allow Richard Littlejohn to publish - in general, let alone what is said about people like myself. It's not bias. It's my opinion based on experience.

It's disappointing that a thread discussing such a desperate issue warps into a slanging match about the inclinations of the British press.

This isn't about left or right it's about Humans.

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Re: Calais higher wall as our bastard children come home
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2015, 08:36:22 AM »
not only that, but it's funny how the standard reply of rightwingers when people rightly attack the daily heil is 'but what about the guardian?'. The Guardian is certainly left of centre and vocal about it but it's a real paper, and while it's certainly selective on the things it chooses to cover, based on their editorial line, they are all real things and news items; in this respect its rightwing equivalents are the times or the torygraph, both definitely pro-tories but real papers.

the fail, on the other hand, is nothing more than a rabid racist, extreme right rag, which constantly makes shit up to suit their ends, with not even the slightest worry about whether there's any truth in what they claim and/or about verifying their sources, and when they caught they just drop it quietly and move on to peddling different lies. Latest example: just yesterday they had a feature on Laibach, the first western band to pay North Korea - in it they refer to them as a Slovakian (they're from Slovenia) fascist band (not only they certainly aren't, to my knowledge they have never been accused to being, or there's ever been any suggestion that they were - they've often used imagery from 1960's and 70's Yugoslavia to accompany their music, so if anything I they were political they'd be the opposite); and to finish in style, they then mention them playing Life is Life, describing it as one of the most famous songs they wrote (it's a cover by Australian band Opus).

By the way, obligatory disclaimer: I only know about this cos somebody posted the link on FB, I wouldn't use that rag to wipe my arse with, so I wouldn't have noticed otherwise :D

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Re: Calais higher wall as our bastard children come home
« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2015, 05:19:28 PM »
Because goods are free to move but not people
Oil is free to move but not people
Jobs are free to move but not people
Money is free to move but not people

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Re: Calais higher wall as our bastard children come home
« Reply #63 on: August 22, 2015, 11:49:36 AM »
Thing is ldopas you are posting about your assumptions of folks bias which, incidentally, is defined in the Oxford dictionary as "inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group, especially in a way considered to be unfair". And whilst I've never talked for anyone else I don't believe my opinion of the Daily Mail is unfair. You may well disagree but that is your opinion and preorgative it is not bias. I'm 45 and have had more than my fill of what that business has to say and in particular go google what they allow Richard Littlejohn to publish - in general, let alone what is said about people like myself. It's not bias. It's my opinion based on experience.

It's disappointing that a thread discussing such a desperate issue warps into a slanging match about the inclinations of the British press.

This isn't about left or right it's about Humans.

I'm surprised you think that this has warped into a "slanging match", I think most people here have discussed it in a cogent and grown up way!

The issue is "desperate" and the response of both right and left wing press is very relevant as a lot of people seem to take their lead from it.

Ok, well if that is the thought I'll let it go. Shame really!

But as I've seen that I've taken (unwarranted I feel) kicking in another post as well, I'll put it down to "let's kick Ldopas in the nuts day"!  :)

« Last Edit: August 22, 2015, 12:33:15 PM by ldopas »

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Re: Calais higher wall as our bastard children come home
« Reply #64 on: August 22, 2015, 12:44:43 PM »
Thing is ldopas you are posting about your assumptions of folks bias which, incidentally, is defined in the Oxford dictionary as "inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group, especially in a way considered to be unfair". And whilst I've never talked for anyone else I don't believe my opinion of the Daily Mail is unfair. You may well disagree but that is your opinion and preorgative it is not bias. I'm 45 and have had more than my fill of what that business has to say and in particular go google what they allow Richard Littlejohn to publish - in general, let alone what is said about people like myself. It's not bias. It's my opinion based on experience.

It's disappointing that a thread discussing such a desperate issue warps into a slanging match about the inclinations of the British press.

This isn't about left or right it's about Humans.

I'm surprised you think that this has warped into a "slanging match", I think most people here have discussed it in a cogent and grown up way!

The issue is "desperate" and the response of both right and left wing press is very relevant as a lot of people seem to take their lead from it.

I've been on this and earlier versions of this board on and off since about 2003, and I can certainly tell you there have been times of horrific "slanging" and times of extreme boredom as people go the opposite way and won't say boo to a goose. I think at the moment the board has got the balance completely right, in that as now seem able to discuss controversial subjects in an adult reasonably unemotive way! Ok, well if that is the thought I'll let it go. Shame really!

But as I've seen that I've taken (unwarranted I feel) kicking in another post as well, I'll put it down to "let's kick Ldopas in the nuts day"!  :)

Bleedin 'ell - it's all gettin' a bit Lemon innit ?  ;D

I meant slanging match in generalised terms,  in a wafty arm wavy sort of way not a poke at individuals. I guess I was trying to say that I felt that the whole press question is a diversion and takes the thread into a whole different debate - which could be a lively new thread   :) Certainly not trying to kick you in the nuts! Not my style  - if I was getting lairy I'd  poke ya in the eyes  :D

In the meantime now we see Macedonia .......................  seems we may soon see new Calais's appearing in many places and how many more people are gonna be needing to flee their homeland?

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Re: Calais higher wall as our bastard children come home
« Reply #65 on: August 22, 2015, 12:59:36 PM »

Bleedin 'ell - it's all gettin' a bit Lemon innit ?  ;D

I meant slanging match in generalised terms,  in a wafty arm wavy sort of way not a poke at individuals. I guess I was trying to say that I felt that the whole press question is a diversion and takes the thread into a whole different debate - which could be a lively new thread   :) Certainly not trying to kick you in the nuts! Not my style  - if I was getting lairy I'd  poke ya in the eyes  :D

In the meantime now we see Macedonia .......................  seems we may soon see new Calais's appearing in many places and how many more people are gonna be needing to flee their homeland?

Hehe. Apologies. I probably had me hackles up from the hassle I was getting in another thread!  ;)

Though I am stumped at the "a bit Lemon", is that cockney rhyming slang? I've tried to think what the slang is?

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Re: Calais higher wall as our bastard children come home
« Reply #66 on: August 22, 2015, 08:26:35 PM »
No - not cockney rhyming slang. Dunno what you'd call it. Maybe Southern Estuary English Commoners Patois ?  ;D

Anyway lemons taste quite sharp therefore getting a bit lemon.

Maybe I should start a "Learn The Language" thread for the swarm of new arrivals  :P
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