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Re: EU Referendum
« Reply #107 on: May 20, 2016, 10:01:50 AM »
Well its May 20th and the tpd for vaping ( tobacco products directive) starts across the eu. For those of us in the UK we won't notice much difference for now apart from no more advertising in print or on radio or television. This is due to the UK government including a 1 year period for non tpd compliant products to be phased out. Come next May only tanks with a 2ml capacity will be able to be sold. The maximum size for e liquid bottles will be 10ml with a maximum nicotine strength of 20mg . Yes I'm very aware that the UK government has been very lenient compared to some other member states.

Anyway none of us voted for this, it wasn't on any party manifesto or even discussed in parliament. Very much like lots of laws.
Lets be thankful I don't live in the usa when you see what the fda are trying to do over there
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Re: EU Referendum
« Reply #108 on: May 20, 2016, 11:35:32 AM »
Incredible isn't it. Should I go back to smoking, will that make them happy.

We have freedom. The freedom to be told what to do and how to live out lives  >:(

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« Reply #109 on: May 20, 2016, 01:28:29 PM »
The biggest hypocrisy is the government has spent years and millions of pounds trying to get people quit smoking then something comes along not controlled by them or there back handers mates in pharmaceutical companies and when millions actually do quit they crap themselves and try and kill it off . Problem is its too late, its grown too large were not passive smokers anyway that lie down and take it. We have turned into passionate people with a cause.
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Re: EU Referendum
« Reply #110 on: May 20, 2016, 03:31:55 PM »
Reading a lot of the posts here, I think a lot of us are getting our hatred for a political party or leader mixed up with the issue of whether we should leave or stay in the EU imo. Loathing for Cameron, Boris, Corbyn, Clegg etc is not the issue. Long after this cast have retired to the Lords we will still be left with the legacy of how we voted. Can we not remove ourselves from party dogma and how we vote in a normal election to discuss the issues.

It is difficult to get information. But understanding that the Mirror, Indi, Guardian and Huffington are left wing and will chip away at the right, and the Sun, Express, Mail etc will do the same to the left. Reading around facts, past decisions and in the end our personal belief on whether it will/not help with immigration, will/wont help the economy and so on is going to be down to us I think personally!

In the end this land has survived the blitz, WW1, Armadas, famine, despots, Romans, Vikings, more crisis that we can remember and come through, so I think we will all survive whatever the vote!  :)

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Re: EU Referendum
« Reply #111 on: May 20, 2016, 05:04:42 PM »
Personally I m leaning towards out , yes I've been called a militant leftist before and sadly I'm on the side of that fck wit Boris and then nasty animal mick gove. Immigration has nothing to do with my vote. I'm sure trade will work its self out. What grinds my gears is meps making bad decisions - undemocratic decisions , yes British democracy might not be the best but at least  its kinda there
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Re: EU Referendum
« Reply #112 on: May 20, 2016, 08:29:52 PM »
How will the cost of a packet of fags, a pint of beer and tickets to gigs be effected?

Whatever the outcome. I'm sure they will be higher afterwards.
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« Reply #113 on: May 20, 2016, 09:55:50 PM »
Well cigarettes will be sold in a minimum 20 soon and rolling tobacco will be a minimum of 30g as well, think anyone that has been a smoker knows that this will only encourage you to smoke more. Yes you can thank Brussels and the tpd . Oh and menthol cigarettes will only be banned, think that's 2020 though
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« Reply #114 on: May 20, 2016, 10:02:50 PM »
I cannot imagine the 20 pack only idea has come from someone who has ever smoked. My wife who was never a big smoker used to buy a pack of 10 and make it last her a week. If she still smoked, the plan now is for such people to have constant temptation sitting in the draw.

You have to wonder if this was dreamed up by someone wanting to help cover the taxation short - fall as a result of so many smokers giving up and going onto the vape  :-\
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Re: EU Referendum
« Reply #115 on: May 21, 2016, 01:28:04 PM »
Yes, I`m a smoke and prefer self rolled ones
For a longer time tobacco was sold in 40 g packages, 4,55 € (Lidl, Aldi) or 6 €, then some month ago I saw some packages 30 g for 5 €,
and yesterday I bought a package for 6 € without knowing that are only 32 g in it , not 40 g! I didn`t want to pay 25 % more - so tomorrow I`m not that lazy and buy two or three at Aldi or Lidl (quality and taste are nearly the same) ...
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« Reply #116 on: May 21, 2016, 04:53:56 PM »
Can remember when I smoked roll ups and whenever I got a few 50g packs of duty free ( people bring back on holiday, nowt black market etc gov) , I would smoke quite a bit more at least 2 x 50g a week sometimes more
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« Reply #117 on: May 21, 2016, 05:43:42 PM »
Personally I m leaning towards out , yes I've been called a militant leftist before and sadly I'm on the side of that fck wit Boris and then nasty animal mick gove. Immigration has nothing to do with my vote. I'm sure trade will work its self out. What grinds my gears is meps making bad decisions - undemocratic decisions , yes British democracy might not be the best but at least  its kinda there

Well you will be glad to hear that as a leftie, your Mr Corbyn has helpfully forgotten 40 years on the public purse campaigning to get out and u-turned his entire career to have an epiphany that we should now stay in.  :D

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« Reply #118 on: May 21, 2016, 06:37:53 PM »
He isn't my mr corbyn , I didn't vote labour though both the parties I voted for in the recent Scottish Parliament elections both support staying in. Yes you get two separate votes , local msp - first past the post system, regional list vote - proportional representation. A much fairer system than Westminster, ie the greens got 6 seats 1 more than the lib Dems. Basically I go with what I think is right, surprising that the labour party have been very quiet on this issue
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« Reply #119 on: May 21, 2016, 08:55:57 PM »
Well. I think Im voting in. Hand on heart for all the negatives I read about Europe, My life is not worse because of Europe. I do wish the papers wouldnt print scarmongering stories from politicians or the CEO of Shoe Zone predicting the country will fall to pieces though. It wont, itll get along fine. Mind you we could take a leaf from the SNP and push for another referendum if we dont get the result we want :D
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