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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2019, 06:43:39 PM »
Well,Today Is A Good Day...here in Jersey,my copy finally arrived (don,t do all that MP3 ? stuff)..waited for disc.........after 5 plays,what can i say ? Love it......Love it.......was smitten after first play,a really strong album (imho)..wonderful stuff,thanks to all involved... 8)...

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2019, 01:10:54 AM »
After about a dozen listens I think I can divide this album into 2.*
4 tracks leave me cold.Passing Through,Conversations,Hard WAy and Maps.*
The rest,I kove.*
Particularly like Great disguise and From Here.
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2019, 11:04:12 AM »
oh dear...i think malderor got lost in the desert while listening to the new album..maybe he has merged fully with the beautiful scenery and the sound and has become an etheral being;)
malderor, where are you? and what do you think about From Here? (and btw where is 8 ?)
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2019, 11:21:04 AM »
Vinyl is arrived in France ! Beautiful piece (except one side have label not properly aligned and it makes you feel sick if you look a it spinning  ;D).
And I have the lyrics ! Really love « the weather » beautifully said. Still have some trouble with the way some lyrics are (like never arriving, the line « is here between departure and arriving - but never arriving », I like the idea, but the repetition of the word « arriving » makes it sound silly to MY hears).
Hadn’t even noticed great disguise before, loves it now that I had read it !
Where I am, I understand it better now, but I still find the chorus a bit out of place, can’t really point out why, it feels silly to me.
Watch and learn, being 47 but with 8 & 5 years old kids, this one makes me shiver. As often with Mr Sullivan, he’s really not in mainstream thinking but in a few years everybody will say the same having the impression to be the first to point it out (Think « ballad » for instance, that is SO relevant today but looked doomsday prophecy from a lunatic to lots of people in the 80’s).
Maps (dammit, cello is really my favourite instrument !), Setting Sun and From Here are still my 3 favourites songs, the 3 goes so well together, amazing poetry there too.
Winter was already a dark album but perhaps this one is a step further in that direction.

For the vinyl, I needed to play it louder than my vinyl usually need (like the last The Ex, 27 passports). For the Ex it is because they have lightly pressed the record to be able to put more music on it. But it makes sometimes the end of sides hard to play because the needle will jump from time to time. I had the jumping needle problem on « From Here » song too, have to check if it’s my record or if it’s like 27 passports (and yes, my record player is a nice one, properly set, with a good needle  ;)).

So this was my second opinion, with lyrics this time ! And I find the music still amazing, with a nice coherence to the whole.
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2019, 12:10:01 PM »
Finally listened the whole album at home, it's too early to rate it (and i haven't read/translated Justin's lyrics yet) but

Maps (dammit, cello is really my favourite instrument !), Setting Sun and From Here are still my 3 favourites songs, the 3 goes so well together, amazing poetry there too.

I agree that the last part of the album is quite haunting on a first listen, that's why i felt that the more punchy/rock -and sometimes generic...- songs  were a bit out of place on the album!
The album sometimes has a feel of a movie soundtrack and especially "Navigating by the stars" (IMO Justin's masterpiece) seem obvious influence on the rythms, sounds and voice of tracks like "Conversation", "Maps", "Setting sun" ( a fast pace psychedelic "Ghost train"?), 'Hard way", "From here"...NMA in its wandering, long, atmospheric moods more than immediate concise days! 

Conversation......give it some spins it';s going to turn into a classic!
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I liked it on first listen!

and i tend to agree with:

I'll do a quick tour - a few words about each track, just the music, not the lyrics.

"Passing through" Too long
"Never arriving" is a very good and catchy song.
"End of days" is solid.
"Great disguise" - we've heard this blandness before. Not a bad song, though.
"Where I am" - catchy enough to be commercial, but not in a particularly good way.
"Watch and learn" . It's a B-side.
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2019, 02:10:14 PM »
Hiii, Is it just my dodgy hearing or is that the dulcet sound of us from Hackney singing in the background of Setting Sun or am I imagining things.✌PL

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2019, 03:19:14 PM »
After about a dozen listens I think I can divide this album into 2.*
4 tracks leave me cold.Passing Through,Conversations,Hard WAy and Maps.*
The rest,I kove.*
Particularly like Great disguise and From Here.

After a self inflicted delay in getting it, and after struggling for over an hour last night updating my ipod to allow it to accept another album, I have now had my first listen. 
I can agree with your thoughts so far Dilla, but even after several listens its hard to judge a new NMA album. I have always found the albums that mean the most to me now I disliked at first. I would say its hard to judge till after several listens over several weeks. I remember from the last two albums initially I did not like "Hold on" or "Sunrise", now I like both songs very much.
This album has several - get you first time you listen songs and several that do not. At first listen I liked "From here" very much, the tune and the quite striking lyrics. That said, for some reason the lyrics reminded me of our very own Spacewind - someone who very much likes to big himself up, also someone who uses the seldom heard term "gallows humour"
The lyrics to "Where I am" reminded me of "Die trying", almost as it it were a prequel to it. 
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #67 on: August 28, 2019, 05:55:30 PM »
Not been the best NMA related week for me - tried to pick up the CD at the weekend but not in Saturn or Media Markt in Duisburg, quick jaunt down the Autobahn to Venlo but no, not there either. Keren managed to pick it up the other day but following a computer clean up was logged off here and couldn't get back in !!! I always get a bit over excited with a new NMA release and this was no exception  :D

Still, here we are and .................. bit underwhelmed in all honesty, the whole thing kinda just passed me by and nothing stuck in the mind or ears at all. I'm hoping that it just needs a few listens to click and many great albums are not immediate favourites so I'm trusting that's the case here. Want to be more positive but at the moment all I've got is I really like Never Arriving  :-\
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #68 on: August 28, 2019, 07:04:18 PM »
Still, here we are and .................. bit underwhelmed in all honesty, the whole thing kinda just passed me by and nothing stuck in the mind or ears at all. I'm hoping that it just needs a few listens to click and many great albums are not immediate favourites so I'm trusting that's the case here. Want to be more positive but at the moment all I've got is I really like Never Arriving  :-\

I got mine from Saturn in Hamburg last Friday so I'm surprised that they didn't have it down your way. However didn't have access to CD player until Monday. I didn't really think that one through ::).

Anyway, my initial reaction was much like yours. It kinda just passed me by. But it has really grown on me with repeated listens. It's somewhere between BDAW and Winter, probably closer to BDAW which is one of my favourite NMA albums. My personal highlights at the moment are The Weather, Conversation, Great Disguise, Where I Am, Hard Way, Setting Sun and From Here. So more than half the album basically. The Weather is a particular favourite at the moment. The only song that doesn't work for me is Watch and Learn but I can see that it's catchy and most people will probably love it. Passing through is a bit weird, too. I mean, I really like it but it never really gets going, despite the constant teasing of impending drums and then it just stops and starts again and then you get all the drums you'd been waiting for in one big pile (You want drums??? Here you go!!!). I still really like it though. Just a bit strange.

However, as much as I love the sound since BDAW, I feel that the drum and base heavy mix is becoming a bit repetitive in places. I find listening to the whole album on headphones almost a bit claustrophobic, like a persistent low hum. I assume that that is intentional. BDAW, Winter and From Here are almost like a trilogy in some ways. Three great albums and each progressing from the previous one but there is an underlying sound/structure that ties them together. All good stuff and I'm not trying to be negative because I do really like these new songs but I'm hoping that they will explore new directions next time. Just my opinion.


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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2019, 08:36:58 PM »
Mine still hasn't arrived from across the pond  :'(

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #70 on: August 29, 2019, 09:57:24 AM »
I'm still underwhelmed by FH and I'm afraid that will not change much in the future.
There are songs that I like but overall, it's their weakest album so far. It's just not working for me.
Even if I try hard, songs like Never Arriving, The Weather, End of Days or From Here are only "okay" and that is just not good enough for a new NMA record. I miss powerful, driving songs and I miss great choruses.
The lyrics are great though  ;)
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #71 on: August 29, 2019, 10:33:26 AM »
I'm still underwhelmed by FH and I'm afraid that will not change much in the future.
There are songs that I like but overall, it's their weakest album so far. It's just not working for me.
Even if I try hard, songs like Never Arriving, The Weather, End of Days or From Here are only "okay" and that is just not good enough for a new NMA record. I miss powerful, driving songs and I miss great choruses.
The lyrics are great though  ;)

There is some great choruses I think  ;)

I understand what you mean, Carnival and High made me feel the exact same way. But after a few years, and some gigs, I was like « what is the album of this great song again » and it was Carnival or High, and then after a while, I noticed that I really love those albums, so who knows, perhaps in a few years ... or not  ;)
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2019, 10:35:44 AM »
@lupus225
Well, that sounds really disappointed and i hope it will change for you in the future. I don't want to convince you that From Here is a fantastic Album, with great Songs on it, you cannot argue about taste and you mentioned what you are missing. But to it sounds like you just had different big expectations, you want to be overwhelmed and maybe that's a point which makes it difficult for you just to listen to wonderfully written and performed music, which i find has a very unique style and is not easy to compare to anything, even with older nma records.
Of course you immediately hear that it is nma, and there are many things which sound so familiar to older songs, and fir some it was a bit too familiar, but to me it is a beautiful record and i won't compare it with other music, the music itself i find great. I'm also not overwhelmed by it, just deeply touched and satisfied.
Maybe if you listen to the new songs imbedded in a setlist with older songs, that you can begin to feel the high-energy of nma performing and that you can listen to From Here with another opinion.
Anyway it is good to share those thoughts and not have the same opinion about it, and i think your disappointment with that record will have no impact of how you see and feel the musical efforts of that great band.


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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2019, 02:07:27 PM »
What is that chord change 2/3rds through *PASSING THROUGH* it's fantastic!!!

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2019, 02:07:37 PM »
Just had a good phones listening and i love the two guitars on conversation bouncing of each other, left..right..like a conversation ;)
I feel this whole album takes you on a journey which is best travelled with no need of a particular point to arrive to...just flow and listen and daydream...
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