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Title: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 10, 2015, 07:29:58 PM
Hello all,
I dont frequent here anymore, I did many years back... and a little looking around just now shows me I dont really know anyone here anymore, and I am guessing no one knows me. But I thought maybe this was worth logging in and posting anyway...

Despite that it seems NMA will never be back to the West Coast of the US, I still represent my love for the band where I can - I wear T-shirts to gigs and always find someone coming up to me saying "hey! NMA!!" (and we chat for a moment about the band we love). It was nice to have those several years of gigs between 2003 to 2009. They meant a lot to this long time fan. (by the way, since we are on the subject, how about a small acoustic gig while mixing with Joe here in LA??  but I digress)

Recently I decided to pay for a specialized plate for my car - to support the California Coastal Commission fund raiser (the "whale tail" version of our California license plates). I chose to personalize it as well.
Fun Fact: they are made by the prisoners in our HUGE overcrowded prison system but they still take 3.5 months to receive after ordering.

I thought this worked well, on multiple levels. (see picture) It references my favorite artist (albiet, subtly), my love for the California Coast, and also speaks to the current state of the world via climate change (and no, the irony is not lost on me that I put this on an automobile :) - but you try living in LA without a car and see how well that goes for you - this is the birthplace of car culture.

I would have loved to do Angry Planet or a host of other ones I considered, but I only got 7 letters and one small space to work with, and I wanted something ocean related. So partially as a nod to this great band...

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2a9nn6t.jpg)

And just so this thread isnt completely boring and worthless, feel free to show some ways you represent your love of this great band that has meant so much to us all.

or not... :)

Cheers.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Intothewind on March 10, 2015, 07:39:51 PM
That is totally cool!!  8)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Master Ray on March 10, 2015, 08:19:48 PM
Love it!   :D
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: sam37 on March 10, 2015, 08:37:22 PM
Absolutly love it!
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 10, 2015, 08:54:51 PM
feel free to show some ways you represent your love of this great band
We all do things to show how much we love NMA. License plate on your car is a cool way. Me? I took one of the band's songs -- "Inheritance" -- and added my guitar playing to it in order to make it a better song.

Cool license plate on your car. However, being that you are from the vapid and brainless state of California, perhaps you should have gone with:
GET ME OUT

Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Intothewind on March 10, 2015, 08:56:14 PM
This is making me think of a bizarre NMA/Beach boys collaboration. This has to happen, right??? 
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Rusco on March 10, 2015, 09:14:06 PM
Very nice plate and good idea, dear Sequioa. Just thinking what NMA song could fit to my Renault mini van...8)

I can remember you from the old times at the Board. :) Welcome back in here! I was with a nic "Beard" here (not Welsh_beard though). There are some ol' geezers still, Ian@leeds writes sometimes, Darkness is around etc. etc.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Pol on March 10, 2015, 09:20:59 PM
Wouldn't really work on the old boring uk plates, nma is the best we could probably hope for you
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 10, 2015, 09:24:02 PM
This is making me think of a bizarre NMA/Beach boys collaboration. This has to happen, right??? 

"Living in the Little Deuce Coop"?
"Surfin Safari Before I Get Old"?...
(shudders)
Thats all I got...

However, being that you are from the vapid and brainless state of California,

How do you summarize a whole state that is larger than most European countries and has the population of Canada into simple words like "vapid" and "brainless"? Ive been all through these states (all but about 5). Lived in one other for a bit as a teen. There are only 1 or 2 others I would EVER consider living in...and the only thing making me consider that is the lack of water and winter here lately.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 10, 2015, 09:31:11 PM
Very nice plate and good idea, dear Sequioa. Just thinking what NMA song could fit to my Renault mini van...8)

I can remember you from the old times at the Board. :) Welcome back in here! I was with a nic "Beard" here (not Welsh_beard though). There are some ol' geezers still, Ian@leeds writes sometimes, Darkness is around etc. etc.

Thank you. Are you saying your name here was "beard"? I remember the other names you mention. I keep in touch with a few from those old days off of the board.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Master Ray on March 10, 2015, 09:32:05 PM
Ooof.  Space is back and not in his nice, cuddly, more recent incarnation. 

Shame.

 ::)

Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Anna Woman von NRW on March 10, 2015, 09:50:14 PM
Hey Sequoia,

I remember you ! Cos I'm that old too, although "cough" I had a different name back then  ;D

What a way to come back and say Hello again  :-*

I think that is brilliant and a fantastic bit of self expression. Hey, didn't some bearded hippy Scouser once write "you know, we're all doing what we can" ?

Can't say goodbye without a nod to the tree in your name - I love those babies especially the fact that you can punch the bark and its like sponge  ;D Hope you'll approve of the fact that I've planted a few of these in South East England over the years  :)

And I also think you are totally right about an acoustic gig in your city come next mixing time. After all it only needs a few hours, a room, guitar, mic, amp and a certain Gentleman. Bloody hell - Kidderminster could happen so surely the land of showbiz can cope  ;D

 :-*
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Intothewind on March 10, 2015, 09:57:19 PM
Ooof.  Space is back and not in his nice, cuddly, more recent incarnation. 

Shame.

 ::)

Cuddly Space creeps me out Scary Space is far more fun! ;)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Semmelnknödöln on March 10, 2015, 10:03:49 PM
I'm still around lurking (and gigging), and I think I know you mate! ;D 8) There's lots of SPACE for discussion here... right up your alley eh? ;)

Great to see the license plate come to life! And I'd fully agree, I still love CA despite all its faults and plastic and silicone...

Seq, can we start planning your trip to see NMA in Europe already? You know you want to, you know it's worthwhile, you know you can.  :D
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 11, 2015, 12:57:25 AM
How do you summarize a whole state that is larger than most European countries into simple words like "vapid" and "brainless"?
I could do it in just four syllables:
Kar-dash-i-ans

Of all the fifty states in America, there's only one state that brood could possibly come from.
California.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Ava Enturin on March 11, 2015, 10:39:11 AM
Nice plates, Sequoia :-)

Since I live in Sweden, and our plates have a 3 letters/3 numbers system I considered NMA 225. But since I always buy used cars, it's not that easy, unfortunately. Although ... just checked, the number seems to be available *hmmm*

Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: sozbot on March 11, 2015, 01:12:12 PM
Love the numberplate, also love the Subaru! You've got excellent taste.  :D
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Willard on March 11, 2015, 05:24:15 PM
Nice plates, Sequoia :-)

Since I live in Sweden, and our plates have a 3 letters/3 numbers system I considered NMA 225. But since I always buy used cars, it's not that easy, unfortunately. Although ... just checked, the number seems to be available *hmmm*

I've been considering exactly that plate for some time now.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Pol on March 11, 2015, 06:19:45 PM
Surely spaces plate would read fanny
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 11, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
ahhh now the board is starting to feel a tiny bit familiar, Red (I remember your name from back then but cant remember our specific interaction - sorry- the names all blend together after 10-15 years from here except for a few that I kept in touch with off the board). ;)  But back then it was often ME upsetting people a lot of the time (never intentionally, mind you,  - but I had some very unpopular opinions (Katrina comes to mind lol )) and passionate, long winded responses. But I mostly loved the board and the discourse here at the time. Later the board was rebooted (a couple times i believe) and things changed a lot here and most I knew here went away.

I, myself am rarely if ever bothered by someones words, as they are just that, and I can choose how they effect me (affect? - damn, I NEVER remember that one). though I may have a response. And here is mine to Space.



Of all the fifty states in America, there's only one state that brood could possibly come from.
California.

Interesting.

Like I said, California has the population of Canada. Judging California based on the KarTrashian family is like judging Canada and Canadians based on J. Beiber.

In fact the biggest misconception about California I have ALWAYS found among outsiders, is that the REST of California is anything like "Los Angeles". But people associate California with LA due to movies, TV, Hollywood, press, etc etc. They hear little else other than San Francisco has gay people and people grow a lot of pot north of that and crazy conservative actors become our governors (or worse)...Take out the greater LA area and you still have a state larger than most European countries. Most Californians outside of LA are quite different & would wish greatly to disassociate themselves with "LA people". LA is a SMALL area and a unique population - although they are the loudest. People also think California is the most liberal state. Try like the 11th most liberal state.

Even judging the LA area based on the Kardashians is a bit ill conceived as THIS is arguably NOT the most likely area of the country that pays the most attention to their shows and buys their products. 


Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 11, 2015, 07:28:03 PM
;D Hope you'll approve of the fact that I've planted a few of these in South East England over the years  :)

And I also think you are totally right about an acoustic gig in your city come next mixing time. After all it only needs a few hours, a room, guitar, mic, amp and a certain Gentleman.


Thanks everyone for the comments! Im very happy about my new plates (I drive a LOT)


Anna WOK, What was your name before?

Regarding an acoustic gig here - Justin and Joolz did a great tiny solo acoustic show around 2008 here in a one room art gallery. I would think that could easily be managed while in town mixing a record.   Just my wish - and judging by others I run into at gigs - not just MY wish.


Funny you mention my approval in your planting Giant Sequoias in England. :)

 a little American history here  you may or may not find interesting,  after they were discovered here in the mid 1800s by "white men" (only natively growing in very specific parts of the western side of California's Sierra Nevada mountains), America, greatly trying to find its own unique culture and place in the world, but lacking in any historical source for that like the European countries had - we turned to nature to help our sense of pride as we had many unique places in that respect (well, (ahem) after we took it from and killed and rounded up all the people already living there, :(   but I digress).

In fact there was a LARGE debate for years on what the scientific name would be as England tried to claim naming rights to the trees first, through a bit of getting their hands on early specimens. Only through some technicalities on the trees characteristics (what trees they were/werent related to and how) did America get to name them properly after England had named them - but I believe it actually only really became official more recently, and much of England still sticks with "their" name for the trees (Wellingtonia).

But then, when the battle was fierce as to who could claim naming rights,  America reminded everyone that they were growing uniquely HERE and pride in them belonged to us, that is until the British started coming to grab many seeds and samples and found they grew pretty readily in England due to the wet and mild climate there. Some brits came and did a lot of damage to some of the larger trees in obtaining many pine cones and seeds to ship and sell in England. They started planting them everywhere there, in an attempt to take away the uniqueness of the location we had for them. Its my understanding there are still quite a lot of those Giant Sequoias from that time (late 1800s) growing there still - all around the same age (still young of course for these trees that can live up to about 3500 years.  There is more to that naming story but thats the short of it.

All that said - I have no issue with you planting them there - hopefully you have more luck with them than have here in Southern California where they dont belong at ALL. After all, this is Kardashian territory down here!
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 11, 2015, 07:44:06 PM
feel free to show some ways you represent your love of this great band that has meant so much to us all.


This guitar cost me a bit more than a license plate and I craved one because of my love for New Model Army. It is a Gibson SG. I bought it because it is the guitar that Justin has used for all the 35 years of NMA's existence. It's a killer guitar and nails the sound of New Model Army.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv224/taxmanharrison/USE%2039_zpsbnpomdnz.jpg)


By the way, no offense to Joolz, but that photo I took above is fantastic and should be the cover of New Model Army's next album.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 11, 2015, 07:47:52 PM
Shame you can't read the original posters thread correctly
Uhhh, please don't say others are not able to read, when it is you that can not read.

Sequoia225 said seven letters plus a space. That's eight. GETMEOUT fits.
Why do you go out of your way to hurl insults at others, when they just come back to make you look foolish?

Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 11, 2015, 08:18:43 PM
Shame you can't read the original posters thread correctly
Uhhh, please don't say others are not able to read, when it is you that can not read.
Sequoia225 said seven letters plus a space. That's eight. GETMEOUT fits.
Why do you go out of your way to hurl insults at others, when they just come back to make you look foolish?


Technically its 7 letters or numbers and a 1/2 space to be placed anywhere in it. If you see the picture - its only a half space - and it can only be a space - it cant be a number or letter. MY mistake for not being completely clear.
The guitar is nice - as is the picture, and I am sure it cost a LOT more than my plate. California has one of the lower prices for specialized (funds benefiting charity organizations) and personalized plates for cars. 
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Bunny on March 11, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
Ooof.  Space is back and not in his nice, cuddly, more recent incarnation. 

Shame.

 ::)

Cuddly Space creeps me out Scary Space is far more fun! ;)

You forgot Ginger Space, Sporty Space, Posh Space and Baby Space!!

Ah. I amuse meself at times  :)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 11, 2015, 08:31:19 PM
Technically its 7 letters or numbers and a 1/2 space to be placed anywhere in it. If you see the picture - its only a half space - and it can only be a space - it cant be a number or letter. MY mistake for not being completely clear.

The guitar is nice - as is the picture, and I am sure it cost a LOT more than my plate. California has one of the lower prices for specialized and personalized plates for cars.  [/color]
Here in New York it is eight (combination of letters and/or spaces). That may have changed because now they put more things on our plates nowadays. "Specialized...personalized" plates? They are called vanity plates here. And that really would have been a great plate: VANITY...serves your New Model Army purpose plus it is self-effacing and ironic.

Yeah, thanks, the guitar is nice. It gets me that great "Lurhstaap" New Model Army guitar grit.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 11, 2015, 08:31:34 PM
feel free to show some ways you represent your love of this great band that has meant so much to us all.

By the way, no offense to Joolz, but that photo I took above is fantastic and should be the cover of New Model Army's next album.

I would have fixed this though  ;) (red circle):
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2lc5yx.png)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 11, 2015, 08:50:04 PM

Here in New York it is eight (combination of letters and/or spaces). That may have changed because now they put more things on our plates nowadays. "Specialized...personalized" plates? They are called vanity plates here. And that really would have been a great plate: VANITY...serves your New Model Army purpose plus it is self-effacing and ironic.




Here they are called "Special Interest Plates"  http://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/online/elp/elp
I said "specialized" and it is the NON standard background design plates that are tied to some organization to raise funds and awareness. "Personalized" is when you pick the actual ID number on the plate - a separate option.
If you get one of these Special Interest plates - you HAVE to change your previous standard ID number on your current plate (and surrender it) and get issued a new one - so you can get another standard ID on the Special Interest plate OR you can pay a bit more and get your ID personalized to your request.

Informally, yes,  people here still say "vanity plates".  Putting VANITY on it IS a great idea - but likely taken. I tried a good handful of things for kicks on the website and odd spellings of those things  - and EVERYTHING I tried - was taken. I think the only reason this wasnt taken was because its not the happiest statement and people tend to do more positive things or just names of places or things. a HUGE populated coastline here so I think these whale plates and ocean related personalizations are all pretty claimed.

Wow this must be boring to read. haha
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 11, 2015, 08:59:24 PM
I would have fixed this though  ;)

Fixed.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv224/taxmanharrison/USE38_zpsyewa8nt3.jpg)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 11, 2015, 09:49:08 PM
hahaha nice. I was just being obnoxious.

Through our collaborative effort now it is better than fantastic. ;)


Now can someone tell me why the text on here defaults to grey and I have to manually make it white with every post? 
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Shush on March 12, 2015, 09:09:13 AM
Space, it would be a sad competition if NMA fans tried to show their affection for the band through how much they have spent. That said, I am sure the guitar cost a lot, but then again, it wouldn't come close to what many on this forum have spent following the band around the country, and indeed the World
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 12, 2015, 02:36:15 PM
I am sure the guitar cost a lot, but then again, it wouldn't come close to what many on this forum have spent following the band around the country, and indeed the World
That's not the proper way to look at this. It would be wrong to add up money spent following the band. I am talking here about one item; and no ticket, or album, or tee-shirt comes close to the price of that guitar.

I bought that guitar specifically because of New Model Army. That guitar is a Gibson SG. If you know anything about Gibson you'd know they are insanely overpriced. No way any other NMA purchase reaches the price of a Gibson SG.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Pol on March 12, 2015, 06:04:38 PM
I think mr shush wins the argument hands down. I mean wot memories and life enhancing experience's do you get from a guitar that looks like Justin's would much rather go and watch/listen to him play his. All that really matters is the love and passion you have for band and the people that surround it
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 12, 2015, 06:15:24 PM
I think mr shush wins the argument hands down. I mean wot memories and life enhancing experience's do you get from a guitar that looks like Justin's would much rather go and watch/listen to him play his.


Oh, Pol, I feel sorry for you. I really do. You don't understand the magic and wonder of music. It is not in seeing someone else play songs that is the joy of music; no, it is the creation of music that is the wonder of it all. Anyone can buy a ticket and see New Model Army play a set of songs in Leipzig. But how many can pick up a guitar and create their own music? That's where the real love of music lies. Creating it. Expressing yourself through the art of music. My guitar allows that. A five dollar ticket to a gig in Leipzig does not.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 12, 2015, 06:46:43 PM

Seq, can we start planning your trip to see NMA in Europe already? You know you want to, you know it's worthwhile, you know you can.  :D

Except I spent all my money on that plate for my car. ;)   Maybe Space can fly me out since he could afford that guitar. Seriously though, it would require money I dont have. You Europeans, always flying around everywhere to this country and that, making it sound so easy. You know Americans dont go anywhere, nor do we ever get any real time off work. We speak of European work environments with their late morning starts, early evening stops, afternoon long lunches and naps, long vacatio....excuse me - HOLIDAYS . ;) 

Ahhh Semm, (Im not writing out that name), this forum just isnt quit the same as used to be (no offense anyone), with all the daily passionate political/social discussions of current events along with NMA happenings it was so busy back then. Space reminds me of a young version of Henious that was here in those days. Not that I know how old anyone is here. Wonder what happened to that guy. He got under my skin sometimes but I had respect for the guy. I really had respect for most if not all here back then though some really didnt care for me.  And I wonder what became of Gary. I long ago lost touch with him unfortunately, though I feel you and I have spoken about him more recently. And there was a cool guy "M" who lived around me - met him at one of the shows around 2004 here. Of course we both still know MillaZ, the one and only!  I have vague memories of the board even before that (90s?) - that was in that cumbersome "list format" that was more akin to comments format.


Anna WOKent, in that Sequoia talk I meant to ask if you have seen the real.....well I mean the Sequoias in California?

Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 12, 2015, 06:50:06 PM
Love the numberplate, also love the Subaru! You've got excellent taste.  :D

Thank you very much. Anyone around here that knows me knows Ive been a huge Subaru fan for years. This is my second Outback - first one took me to 210,000M and I happily bought another a couple years back. Ive been directly responsible for 4 other purchases of Subarus from other people that wouldnt have even considered them otherwise. One would THINK I am due for a good discount. ;)
I never even thought much about cars before owning these.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Pol on March 12, 2015, 07:12:17 PM
Lol I'm lost for words almost. The answer is of course almost anyone can pick up a guitar and make to music to some degree. Hell i own a pen doesn't make me a song writer or a wordsmith. The thing is mr Sullivan just happens to be the best ever imo. Plus the whole gig experience isn't just about the band its so much more the buying of tickets gig n train, the anticipation of watching the calendar the days getting nearer, the journey there the meeting of kindred spirits some who will become friends for life. I wouldn't swap any nma gig I've been to for your guitar and anyway how came you really comment when you have never actually seen nma play. My advice sell the guitar and get yourself over to one of the upcoming shows.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Shush on March 12, 2015, 07:36:21 PM
Like the pen simile Pol.
I have another. An arsehole with a camera and a stack of records does not make an album cover designer  ;D
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: lotus on March 12, 2015, 07:38:07 PM

 And there was a cool guy "M" who lived around me - met him at one of the shows around 2004 here. ....   I have vague memories of the board even before that (90s?) - that was in that cumbersome "list format" that was more akin to comments format.

Welcome back
 I remember those old board days, you and names you mention and the long postings I coulnd`t follow because my english isn`t perfect  enough  :)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 12, 2015, 07:46:34 PM

 and the long postings I coulnd`t follow because my english isn`t perfect  enough  :)



Im sure your English was better than ability to say things in a nice, short,  succinct fashion.

Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Master Ray on March 12, 2015, 07:47:28 PM
You don't understand the magic and wonder of music. It is not in seeing someone else play songs that is the joy of music; no, it is the creation of music that is the wonder of it all. Anyone can buy a ticket and see New Model Army play a set of songs in Leipzig. But how many can pick up a guitar and create their own music?

Space, sir, I was in a couple of bands in the 90's... and they weren't very good.  Rollins-inspired ranty metal crap. ENORMOUS fun with great friends who are still close to this day, and we played some halfway decent gigs, but crap all the same.  I don't regret a moment of those days,... but I really struggling to understand the point here.  Were my shitty bands better than NMA just because we did it for ourselves?  By that same token, are you better than The Beatles when you're strumming away in your home?

A couple of other points... not sure about those constant references to Leipzig?  Whats so special about that place?  And I don't think we should be going on about a Forum person not seeing NMA live when they don't get to the US all that often?   ???

One last one for Space... plenty of NMA stuff in your picture... was that all imported?  Must have cost you a fortune!  What's availability like for old NMA vinyl in your parts, much less conventional CD releases?  Genuinely interested in what you have to say on this point!
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Shush on March 12, 2015, 07:48:16 PM
One of the first things I did when someone showed me the tinternet for the first time was search for NMA. I remember the one page website. While I have kept an eye on things, I only finally joined in 2012. Since then it is clear to see people come and go all the time, sometimes never to be seen again. Even my own bud Barty has now crossed over to the dark side

(twitter)  >:(
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: lotus on March 12, 2015, 07:54:12 PM

 and the long postings I coulnd`t follow because my english isn`t perfect  enough  :)



Im sure your English was better than ability to say things in a nice, short,  succinct fashion.



You are right, typing an answer without a mistake isn`t easy, too   ;)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 12, 2015, 08:16:06 PM
You're such a massive fan that you can't even get off your arse and go and watch them
I have no desire to see a band play "Get Me Out" for the 493rd time.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 12, 2015, 08:25:55 PM
... plenty of NMA stuff in your picture... was that all imported?  Must have cost you a fortune!  What's availability like for old NMA vinyl in your parts, much less conventional CD releases?  Genuinely interested in what you have to say on this point!

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv224/taxmanharrison/USE38_zpsyewa8nt3.jpg)

Yeah, except for a few of the CDs, all that stuff I had to buy as imports.

Some of it is pretty rare even for Britian. The "Poison Street" 12" in the picture came with a 12 inch live album, the "Stupid Questions" 12 inch came with a massive fold out poster. The seven inch "Brave New World" single and "The Acoustic EP" weren't big sellers across the pond, imagine how tough it was to find them over here back in the day. We had some very good record stores around here back then, but they didn't always get the good stuff...and they didn't get that stuff in large quantities. A lot of it came down to luck finding New Model Army records back then.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 12, 2015, 08:27:52 PM
An arsehole with a camera and a stack of records does not make an album cover designer  ;D
Nope, you also need the guitar. I have one and that's why my pic could be the next album cover and your pic won't.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Shush on March 12, 2015, 08:36:39 PM
erm' I don't have a pretentious self made fantasy NMA  album cover. The next cover I would hope and expect to be done by Joolz like all those before. A long and proud association
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Pol on March 12, 2015, 08:49:29 PM
You can buy a crown it doesn't make you king
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Master Ray on March 12, 2015, 08:57:45 PM
Can I just say, Space, well done on finding a Poison Street 12-inch... I have plenty of old NMA vinyl, but I only ever SAW a copy of it once... twenty years ago at a record fayre when they were charging £33 for it... whats that, about 40 bucks in US cash?  That must be about sixty US $$$s in nowadays money...

One of my favourite bits of Joolz artwork...   ;)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Rusco on March 12, 2015, 09:04:04 PM

Thank you. Are you saying your name here was "beard"? I remember the other names you mention. I keep in touch with a few from those old days off of the board.

Yea, I actually did write only about 80-150 messages during 2007-2009, having some pauses, but read the on-going topics quite frequently. Then again in 2010 I stayed for an half year. In 2013 I logged again and here we are. Until now I think I've "learned" to know some of the people somehow better, although I remember some old names well (Ottodeth, Ingo, Nietsche, 8, Darkness, Semmelknödöln, ian@leeds, Rob, Simon, welsh_beard, Fransson, Mia, SF, Dreamer, Stompy, basilcat, NickyG, Marloes, jsyirish, Stoney, etc. etc.) and have met some of them. Today I feel it's not just a "social media" for me to read with all the fun or something, but really feel I can be my own self here too. And what comes to upsetting(?) posts in the old days; I think I was once too curious about posting rumours in good or bad intent about some bands belonging somehow to NMA or something. Later on realised it possibly didn't feel good for someone there. We all change and learn...and get older.   :)

Btw, I was thinking the same that what were all the different names, nicknames, you all have had here earlier..?
Oh, boy, I'll create a new topic about it in everything else.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 12, 2015, 09:16:25 PM
You can buy a crown it doesn't make you king

"So you want to be a rock n' roll star? Well, listen now, hear what I say.
Just get an electric guitar. And take some time and learn how to play."

Thank God me, Justin Sullivan, and countless others who have enriched lives with music listened to those words and not the ones you posted.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Pol on March 12, 2015, 09:29:04 PM
Aye space you have certainly enriched all of our lives, with your constant flow of greatness let me bow down and worship you What your band called btw American Revolutionary Space Enlightenment
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 12, 2015, 09:38:03 PM
Aye space you have certainly enriched all of our lives

No problem, Pol. All of this I give to you. Just bow down and worship me.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 12, 2015, 09:41:55 PM
Hey guys. did I mention I got a new plate for my car?
;)





Yea, I actually did write only about 80-150 messages during 2007-2009,



 
Rusco,
I was more frequently posting 2002 to 2007ish. Mostly lurked a few years before that. I was always Sequoia225.  I tapered off when the board was getting rebooted and spam got crazy and things got really stuffy from those in charge (censoring and "parenting" responses to the posts from those "moderating" became a "thing" even for just a naughty word despite it not being directed at anyone) not to mention things just really slowed down here esp in the "everything else" that had been so lively on a daily basis for some years. I love NMA but I wasnt here to discuss THEM day after day - but enjoyed talking about just daily life/the world/etc. with some great, intelligent people who I shared some things in common with (punk music/NMA).   I had a more personal reason for not posting as well but I wont get into it here and it had nothing to do with anyone here but it did have to do with someone off the board. But things were changing here all the same.

"it seems strange to write about these things now..."  lol

Off the top of my head, a couple very long debated topics in those days were the smoking threads (a lot of anti-smoking legislation was happening here and in the UK at that time), the war, Katrina was a big one - as my friend Kip on here was experiencing it as it happened - and I seemed to upset everyone (esp Kip) posting here with my opinions on the matter of where people should and shouldn't rebuild. I think everyone hated me after holding my stance in that conversation. :)  In general I thought highly of most that were here, and very highly of a good handful of them.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Pol on March 12, 2015, 09:42:35 PM
You could get Courtney Love and her band to do the support
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Master Ray on March 12, 2015, 09:45:26 PM
Aye space you have certainly enriched all of our lives

No problem, Pol. All of this I give to you. Just bow down and worship me.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."

Matthew 4-9?

 :)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Space on March 12, 2015, 09:52:08 PM

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."

Matthew 4-9?

 :)

Who's this Matthew guy? Matthew Sweet?

Nah, it's from the Book Of Impurity:

Justin 4:2

(4th album, 2nd track)
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: jackroadkill on March 12, 2015, 11:13:18 PM
Space, you could give a ******* aspirin a headache.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 13, 2015, 12:01:08 AM
Can I just say, Space, well done on finding a Poison Street 12-inch...

You know, I have one of these as well. I couldnt have paid that much - found it some random day in the last 10 or 15 years.

60 dollars eh?  hmmmm
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Pol on March 13, 2015, 06:38:28 AM
I bought my poison street 12" in the last couple of years only paid £3 max for it, got it in missing records Glasgow didn't realise it was worth more. Wont be selling unless someone makes me a silly offer cash in hand lol
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 14, 2015, 05:02:08 AM
I bought my poison street 12" in the last couple of years only paid £3 max for it, got it in missing records Glasgow didn't realise it was worth more. Wont be selling unless someone makes me a silly offer cash in hand lol

Coincidentally, tonight after work I swung by one of the premiere record stores in LA (Amoeba Records). I saw Poison Street there in its 2-12" version with the extra live tracks on the other 2nd 12"
this one:
http://www.discogs.com/New-Model-Army-Poison-Street/release/1098190
and it was in perfect new like shape for 15 dollars.

I did buy 2 NMA 12" singles. (No Rest & Better Than Them) as I didnt have them and they were 7 bucks each.
Good additions to my collection.
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Dipple on March 15, 2015, 09:06:56 PM
Sequioa225 - Just came across this on YouTube and thought of you. Did you attend this? I think this is what you had in mind earlier in the thread. Full band doing a semi acoustic set in Longbeach California 2006.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ngx3zDd5Mc

Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 16, 2015, 03:35:59 AM
ahhhhh  no. Thank you though. They played here that year on the same weekend as Thanksgiving Holiday and I went to see my friends in New Mexico that long weekend and drove back Monday - the day after your video and the day  they played a full show in Hollywood. Its a 12 hour drive and I didnt make it back in time. I remember that well - was very disappointed. Thats the only year I missed them during those years they came.

No, the show I was referring to was just Justin, Joolz, and the kid from that band they were helping out (cant remember the name). 2007 or 2008, maybe 2009? It was in a little one room "art gallery" of sorts down in Long Beach. We all just sat on the floor. It was the only time I have ever seen Joolz in person.
A certain guy here with a crazy German (maybe its not German - what do I know) user name might be able to shed some light on this. ;)

Thanks for opening up old wounds though. ;)
Seriously - thanks
Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Semmelnknödöln on March 16, 2015, 01:27:31 PM
ö ö ö, crazy eh? Classical literature that is, almost ;D

So, this gathering took place at the DDRprojects Gallery, January 30, 2008, and awesome it was... a few steps away from the Pacific. Some audiovisual light shedded....

Ocean Rising:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVJvVOSwn6U

Someone Like Jesus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXjru4bBBh0

While I'm at it... someone here might also enjoy Kristin Hersh doing Your Ghost in the middle of REALLY nowhere... same year... a few miles outside of Pioneertown in Joshua tree desert.... surrounded by rattle snakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La5HVB0T1P8

I think JS played a few songs in the Pioneertown saloon on that same trip as the above Long Beach gig... according to someone in said bar. I'll be checking flights if this happens again :)
http://pappyandharriets.com


Title: Re: Showing my love for 2 things, 1 is NMA
Post by: Sequoia225 on March 16, 2015, 03:46:52 PM
ö ö ö, crazy eh? Classical literature that is, almost ;D

So, this gathering took place at the DDRprojects Gallery, January 30, 2008, and awesome it was... a few steps away from the Pacific. Some audiovisual light shedded....



ahhhhh yes - there it is. Hey I recognize that video. I have a copy of it on some external drive somewhere. I was sitting just off camera to the left. I feel like I did an audio recording of this gig - cant remember now. Ok Jan - 30 2008 - yeah that sounds right cause I remember wearing a jacket - which is necessary for about a month here. Hmm maybe "necessary" is a strong word.
It also seemed that it was not during their tour here - he was in town for something else. But see - why cant he do a gig like this while in town mixing? Not that he owes us or anything - and I know first hand how time consuming and grueling record mixing can be. But...I need a new supply of gig shirts!

Speaking of Pioneertown, There is a pretty cool little music festival that goes on now in Pioneertown -

The Desert Stars Festival:
http://www.desertstarsfestival.com/#!about/c161y

 I almost went this past October - its not all commercial and corporate like EVERY MUSIC FESTIVAL in America has become. If I wasnt working 6 days a week that month...Its the type of thing New Model Army would fit right in at.