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General Category => New Model Army => Topic started by: Space on December 27, 2014, 06:24:42 PM
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For Christmas I received "Wine and Blood" and "High" (after one disappointing release after another, I decided to skip "High" upon its initial release). Like most NMA albums they will take time to get into, but I can already see they ain't going to be as mind-blowingly great as the early albums. So I listen to this newer stuff....and then run to my cabinet, grab an old NMA album, and listen to "No Rest For The Wicked" for the millionth time.
This happens with every NMA release -- the new stuff makes me listen to the old stuff. Because I got into the band in the early days I guess I am doomed to never enjoy the new releases as much as I see some here do. Those early albums had one great tune after another; the new albums...it is hard to find even one top song. I think the last great song the band had was "Long Goodbye" -- that goes back to 1998!
I'm doomed. I'll always get NMA albums, but the adrenaline rush I got from listening to a new NMA album is a thing of the past. Yes, I admit I played air-guitar in front of the mirror to many a NMA album. That sure didn't happen last year with the "Dog And Wolf" album. Ain't happening with "Wine and Blood" either.
Crucify me for complaining, but a NMA album release was as fantastic as your team winning the Super Bowl. You'd walk around with your shoulders straighter, your head higher, and you'd have attitude! Now I just get a little bit sadder with an NMA release, and I fall back into nostalgia and play the older records.
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Such a shame you feel that way, mate... if you've read any of my ramblings, you'll know I feel the exact opposite... but each to their own and respect for your opinion. :)
Nostalgia is a wonderful thing (God knows, I spend enough time dwelling on the past) but can I ask... do you feel the same way about other bands from your past? Their new stuff not working for you? And, if so, is it possible that you are just feeling a bit older and missing the same buzz that you got about things when you were younger? I can apply that to music or movies or life in general...
Do you go and see NMA live? If not, you should see how great the newer stuff goes down... something like Today Is A Good Day hits just as hard as the likes of No Rest...
Again, no disrespect for your views, but good as the older stuff is, the newer stuff has so much to offer...
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.. do you feel the same way about other bands from your past?
Yeah, I feel this way about others musicians. The new stuff that Paul McCartney is releasing is no way as good as what he was doing with The Beatles.
On the other hand, I've been a Prince fan since the beginning and though his new stuff is not on the same level as his late '80s brilliance, his new output is still very interesting and good. And then take someone like Clint Eastwood -- he is making far better films now then he did back in the '80s. His work actually improved. I certainly am not nostalgiac for "Space Cowboys" or "The Rookie."
Wish NMA could still deliver the quality of their past. I understand an athelete can't maintain his level of talent, but I honestly don't know why a musician can not.
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Sir, you said 'Prince'... :o
Bloody love 'His Royal Badness'. From 'Dirty Mind' to '7'... all so good.
But, surely, you can't equate 'Planet Earth' with 'Sign O' The Times' like you can put 'High' against 'the Ghost of Cain'? Prince hasn't put out a great album in 20 years, whereas NMA are constantly sticking out great and innovative music that gets people going mad at the gigs?
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Come on, Prince's new release - just a few weeks ago, the album with the girl band - is far more interesting than NMA's new release. His album from a few years ago "3121" is an absolute Prince classic; and something like "The Rainbow Children" -- his jazz concept album -- well, yeah, I know a lot of people hated it, but I loved it and surely all can appreciate Prince's ambitious and bold move with that release.
When NMA tried to break out of their mold, the results were astonishingly awful. When I first heard those horn blasts that started off "Gigabyte Wars" my jaw dropped, I started shaking, and I wanted to throw my CD player against the wall. Take the worst shit that Dexy's Midnight Runners did and multiply that by a thousand -- you get the horns in "Gigabyte Wars." Oh, you've no idea how that song affected me. Those horns on "Gigabyte Wars" actually made me angry that I followed NMA for so many years. I figured that if the band thinks this brass arrangement is good, then they surely don't know a thing about music and have just been purely lucky with the good tunes they came up with. That "Gigabyte" song turned me off so much from the band. How can a band I love be this awful?
Prince can break away from the norm and still deliver the goods, NMA can't. Which is why I find the new "Dog and Wolf" release a bit frustrating. It isn't Gigabyte-horrific, but where are the f***ing GUITARS!?! No guitars is not what New Model Army do!
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Wow... umm... :-\
So, NMA do something a bit different and it's awful, but Prince (who, again I have so much admiration for) does a 'jazz concept album' and it's OK?
Starting to struggle now, mate. NMA throw is some horns and it's bad, but throw in mellow stuff like 'Someone Like Jesus' and it's shit because it doesn't have BIG guitars in it?
With respect, mate, we're getting dangerously close to trolling... any of the usual posters got anything to say on this one? ???
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Gigabyte wars is a fckin excellent tune. I've always liked it and i can respect others might have not. Well done to the band for trying something different and pulling it off.Don't really agree that the older cds were better either and I've been into nma since 84 and yes it was brilliant to hear a few tunes from the vengeance era played live recently. There is just as many "newer" songs that are just as excellent, played live recently we had rumor and rapture to angry planet and everything in-between.
Get Real If Real Is Real
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Dude, the point is simply that Prince CAN stretch, while NMA may not be as capable. Do you really think Justin Sullivan is a musician equal to Prince?
Prince has an otherworldy ability to stretch musically. The guy is the one musician born who can most easily move from one genre of music to another. Rock, pop, dance, funk, jazz, soul...if Prince wanted to do a grunge tune he'd put out something great.
(I will admit that Prince did have one monstrous failure when he tried a different genre. He actually wrote a fight song for his favorite football team the Minnesota Vikings. Oh, boy was it shockingly awful.)
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Dude, the point is simply that Prince CAN stretch, while NMA may not be as capable. Do you really think Justin Sullivan is a musician equal to Prince?
Prince has an otherworldy ability to stretch musically. The guy is the one musician born who can most easily move from one genre of music to another. Rock, pop, dance, funk, jazz, soul...if Prince wanted to do a grunge tune he'd put out something great.
(I will admit that Prince did have one monstrous failure when he tried a different genre. He actually wrote a fight song for his favorite football team the Minnesota Vikings. Oh, boy was it shockingly awful.)
I think Justin is an incredible musician and very adaptable
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I don't like prince though never have and never will. You really think that he could do angry planet or any decent rock tune. Maybe I'm narrow minded but its a nma forum and I proudly love the band, nobody else comes anywhere close for me.
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Don't really agree that the older cds were better either
No, this is not a better issue. It's music, subjective, how can we really talk about better?
My point is this: When we get into a band, there are specific things we like about that band. Their sound, their members, their point of view. Take The Beatles. Early days, great rock and roll. Now if they got a new member around '66 and just started putting out reggae tunes, would a Beatle fan be wrong to say "I liked them more in the early days"?
With New Model Army - the things that I liked were the savage guitars that knocked you out, the amazing rhythm supplied by the drummer behind that, the sharp songwriting, and most of all that bass. It was a bass unlike anything that was out there. Stuart Morrow is the greatest bass player no one knows. What he did on songs like "Frightened" defy description. It was bass playing guitar lines, it was a BIG sound, it was manic...it was basically like if you gave Keith Moon a bass guitar. Morrow created a controlled chaos that was absolutely extraordinary.
Now the drummer, the bass player, and the savagery of the guitar are no longer present in the band. Am I wrong to say I liked the band more back then? Those things - the drummer, bass player, and guitars - is what attracted me to the band. What I loved most about NMA.
Once again present NMA vs. older NMA is not about better. It is simply a matter of different. I was attracted to what older NMA put out, others may be attracted to what this version of the band puts out. No issues.
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You really think that Prince could do angry planet or any decent rock tune.
Boy, how'd this getting into a Prince thread?
I will say this: Prince can do any rock tune better than 99% of any rock musicians. Even Justin Sullivan would admit that Prince's lead guitar playing is miles ahead of his own.
You're not a Prince fan, that's cool. But anyone who has a number of Prince albums knows that when it comes to rock and roll, Prince can put most rockers under the table. You don't have to believe that, but it is true. There was a reason why when George Harrison got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall Of fame, it was Prince who was asked to perform the guitar solo to "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" as that night's finale. There are only one or two guys on Earth who can play rock lead better than him.
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OK, lets take Prince out of the equation...
Justin and NMA ain't adaptable and can't 'stretch'?
Can you see no difference between 'Vengence' and, say, 'Someone Like Jesus'... :o
NMA are so diverse....
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I'm attracted to everything that the band have put out though. Yes Stuart was a brilliant one off bass player but he choose to leave the band well over 25 years ago now. Yes the band had to change their sound and slightly re-invent themselves. But that's what nma such a great band the constantly changing and evolving sound. Maybe if Stuart had stayed things might have got a bit stale. As for Rob yes he was a fckin brilliant drummer but in my opinion Michael is equally as good. As for the guitars Marshall is a excellent player and Justin is even better, and Justin song writing and singing have gone from strength to strength.
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I would be interested to know how many times 'Space' has been to a live gig in the last 10 years ?
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Fair comment Space and you are rightly entitled to your opinion. I have also been a NMA fan since Vengeance and in some ways would love the new material to capture that spirit, venom and urgency. But thats the whole point really, I would hate the new stuff to be a repeat of older material, that would be a really poor show.
For me the new material goes in lots of different directions and has a greater depth than the early songs, some is ok, most is really good and some of it is outstanding, why not give it another go....?
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why not give it another go....?
Of course I'll give it another go. I've been buying NMA records for thirty years. Yes, the past 15 years has been one disappointment after another, but because there was once an incredible brilliance to the band, I will always buy and listen to their new material. Just saying if I had to make a best of NMA tape, "Long Goodbye" would be the most recent song on that tape. And that song is from back in 1998! That's not good.
I must say I do like "Seven Times" from both the "Dog and Wolf"/"Wine and Blood" releases. That song might eventually creep onto a best of tape.
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why not give it another go....?
Of course I'll give it another go. I've been buying NMA records for thirty years. Yes, the past 15 years has been one disappointment after another, but because there was once an incredible brilliance to the band, I will always buy and listen to their new material. Just saying if I had to make a best of NMA tape, "Long Goodbye" would be the most recent song on that tape. And that song is from back in 1998! That's not good.
I must say I do like "Seven Times" from both the "Dog and Wolf"/"Wine and Blood" releases. That song might eventually creep onto a best of tape.
How many NMA gigs have you been to in the last 10 years ?
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I would be interested to know how many times 'Space' has been to a live gig in the last 10 years ?
Alright, cat out of the bag time.
Answer to how many times I have seen NMA live in the past ten years? None.
Answer to how many times I have seen NMA live at all? None.
And I am/was an outrageously avid concert goer. Man, I saw The Clash at those classic New York City Bonds shows in Times Square EIGHT times! I've seen just about every band under the sun. From Frankie Valli And The Four Seasons to Public Image when Keith Levene was on guitar!
But with New Model Army the thing is this -- no one I know, absolutely no one I know has ever heard of New Model Army. I'll go to a movie alone, a restaurant alone, but I ain't going to a concert alone. And a New Model Army show (or any concert) wouldn't exactly be a great place to bring a date who is unfamiliar with the band. So I, a concert-goer extraordinaire have never seen them live.
I don't know exactly how many times the band has played New York City. I really don't think it is too often. (And, yeah, I remember the incident in the early '80s when the band couldn't get work visas to play here in New York. "No artistic value." That incident got me heavily into New Model Army. Wow, this band must be really politically strident and dangerous.)
Thing is now I don't think I will ever see them live. I am not too keen on hearing material from "Carnival" or "Eight" played. I missed out on the days when "Space" was being played (oh, I love that song). I can live with that regret.
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Come on people, let's not get to falling out over subjective opinions. The OP might not like NMA's recent output, and that's fine. It's also fine that others disagree. You can't choose whether you like something or not, after all.
Personally, NMA's musical diversity is one of my favourite aspects of their output. I don't like the vast majority of BDAW, but am happy that it was so well received by the Family and also by the music media too.
Any band has to make the music that they want to make; making the same record over and over again because that's what the fans of the first album liked is ridiculous; however, the fanbase demographic will evolve over time along with the changes in feel and approach by the band.
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I think it's always too difficult to compare different artists together. At least if they don't have anything common with them; different scenes, not from the same scene, not same people in the groups... That just doesn't work. But each on their own we can express our thoughts and describe the reasons why we like them. That doesn't discern the authentic pieces of art what they've created. The same ones that once shook our hearts. Whether it's NMA, Prince, or someone other from a ten thousand of great acts.
If Stuart had stayed in the band and if Heaton was alive, The NMA would surely sound different today than what they did in the mids of eighties, or even in 90's. People evolve and change. Just look at how Metallica have changed since the eighties. All the bands need to change that they could go forward. Aw, we all know this, don't we... I think f.e. Nelson was a bassist that could do the same tricks as Stuart did and Nelson evolved with the band. He also played in Eight, Carnival, High and Today is a Good Day. No Rest for The Wicked was indeed a great, great album (one of my faves too), but I think the bass sound on it is more due to the time then, it was significant sound with quite many artists.
Dog and Wolf is an album that I literally listened confused the first time I put it on a CD player. It was a diamond, a spell, or something and I thought that now they did it. Something that's new and fascinating and could fairly say I haven't ever heard any album or artist that could make such record. The song Between Dog & Wolf will probably stay forever as a family party song to dance to me, like a pagan bacchanal for eveyone to join in the feast... If I was asked does the album lack anything(?) I would humbly say I waited a bit more guitars too. Gill Marshall is superb in what he's doing. But the concept there is a bit different to what they've done earlier. It's good to give more space to Dean White too.
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Justin can't stretch? Have you listened to "Navigating by the Stars" or the work he did on Joolz's album "Spirit Stories"?
If not, you should. Mind you, it's not Jazz.
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Some may crucify my for this but i think "No Rest" is one of the NMA albums that does the least for me. I was not even born when it was released and was a very "Rock" album. I like more depth than just rock. Don't get me wrong, I by no means dislike it, Just like it the least.
High is my absolute favorite, It's a very "Hippie" album referring to the other thread. I am grateful that NMA are not stuck in the 80's. That would be dreadful.
Prince? That's one artist that i can never bring myself to like. It sounds bloody awful to me yet he is a musical genius.
The thing is music is very personal, Makes the listener feel something,Makes life more bearable and is highly subjective. Nobody should be judged by the strong opinions or other's taste in music.
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Justin can't stretch? Have you listened to "Navigating by the Stars" or the work he did on Joolz's album "Spirit Stories"?
If not, you should. Mind you, it's not Jazz.
If you have not listened to it in your absence try the solo album. IT's another hippie album though. 8)
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I might be being dim but this is curious Space, the thrust of you argument seems to be,
1) NMA have not produced anything good since you were young
2) They have no anger and urgency
3) They're crap musicians and don't do anything new.
hmm.....
Well I get confused by on the one hand reading that you just want the first 3 albums made over and over again yet then you bemoan the fact that there 's not enough development in sound or range well which is it? If its range then whilst you might not like the albums (fine - taste is subjective) the different slices of life and sound are still there or do you think You Weren't There is the same as All Consuming Fire which is the same as Stormclouds? If it's that there has not been the first 3 albums on repeat in the studio then thank frack for that. If it had been then I doubt most of us would be here and I doubt NMA would have existed for 34 years. How many times can you say the same thing in the same way? Life's a lot bigger than that. The world moves on and so do people or at least they should and personally I can't imagine still wanting to be in the same Space I was when I first heard those albums decade ago and one thing's for sure - I definitely ain't the same person ;D. Whilst those songs still resonate they're only part of life's picture. If I was that angry all the time after all these years I think I might investigate a bit of Anger Management Therapy :)
Talking of anger, there's been none for a while: R&R, Another Imperial Day, Bloodsports, TIAGD, Angry Planet. None of these strike you as angry? Fair enough with BDAW there's not really a traditional "Angry NMA" on there.
As far as the lack of ability goes I'm gonna tell myself that that was just a weird bit of the conversation that doesn't read quite how is was meant because otherwise the only response would be what a load of bollox. Sounds like the oft trotted out lazy journalistic crap from an ignoramus who hasn't bothered to actually listen to anything since they heard Vengeance when they were at school. If you don't like something - fine but don't reduce the value in something because of your opinion it's lazy and childish. As an example take Prince: I can't stand his music, leaves me colder than Reggae even (and that's saying a lot :) ) he's down there with Simply Red as far as I'm concerned- awful, boring, cold never ending crap. Ok that's my opinion but I couldn't possibly decry his talent, ability, breadth and musicianship, the chap is obviously a bit of a genius and I'd happily argue that - I just don't like his music.
As and when NMA are in New York you get down there, see them live and see what you make of it then - and don't give me that no-one to go with nonsense, cos that's you and me both honey together with many others on here and as soon as you're in that gig there will be friends cos we're all one big happy family baby :-*
Lastly, an opinion of my own re: guitars. Marshall Gill re-invigorated the band and I think he is the best guitarist NMA have ever had and the quality and expression of his guitar work speaks for itself - listen again.
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As and when NMA are in New York you get down there, see them live and see what you make of it then - and don't give me that no-one to go with nonsense, cos that's you and me both honey together with many others on here and as soon as you're in that gig there will be friends cos we're all one big happy family baby :-*
Lastly, an opinion of my own re: guitars. Marshall Gill re-invigorated the band and I think he is the best guitarist NMA have ever had and the quality and expression of his guitar work speaks for itself - listen again.
This.
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I might be being dim but this is curious Space, the thrust of you argument seems to be,
1) NMA have not produced anything good since you were young
2) They have no anger and urgency
3) They're crap musicians and don't do anything new.
hmm.....
Well I get confused by on the one hand reading that you just want the first 3 albums made over and over again yet then you bemoan the fact that there 's not enough development in sound or range well which is it? If its range then whilst you might not like the albums (fine - taste is subjective) the different slices of life and sound are still there or do you think You Weren't There is the same as All Consuming Fire which is the same as Stormclouds? If it's that there has not been the first 3 albums on repeat in the studio then thank frack for that. If it had been then I doubt most of us would be here and I doubt NMA would have existed for 34 years. How many times can you say the same thing in the same way? Life's a lot bigger than that. The world moves on and so do people or at least they should and personally I can't imagine still wanting to be in the same Space I was when I first heard those albums decade ago and one thing's for sure - I definitely ain't the same person ;D. Whilst those songs still resonate they're only part of life's picture. If I was that angry all the time after all these years I think I might investigate a bit of Anger Management Therapy :)
Talking of anger, there's been none for a while: R&R, Another Imperial Day, Bloodsports, TIAGD, Angry Planet. None of these strike you as angry? Fair enough with BDAW there's not really a traditional "Angry NMA" on there.
As far as the lack of ability goes I'm gonna tell myself that that was just a weird bit of the conversation that doesn't read quite how is was meant because otherwise the only response would be what a load of bollox. Sounds like the oft trotted out lazy journalistic crap from an ignoramus who hasn't bothered to actually listen to anything since they heard Vengeance when they were at school. If you don't like something - fine but don't reduce the value in something because of your opinion it's lazy and childish. As an example take Prince: I can't stand his music, leaves me colder than Reggae even (and that's saying a lot :) ) he's down there with Simply Red as far as I'm concerned- awful, boring, cold never ending crap. Ok that's my opinion but I couldn't possibly decry his talent, ability, breadth and musicianship, the chap is obviously a bit of a genius and I'd happily argue that - I just don't like his music.
As and when NMA are in New York you get down there, see them live and see what you make of it then - and don't give me that no-one to go with nonsense, cos that's you and me both honey together with many others on here and as soon as you're in that gig there will be friends cos we're all one big happy family baby :-*
Lastly, an opinion of my own re: guitars. Marshall Gill re-invigorated the band and I think he is the best guitarist NMA have ever had and the quality and expression of his guitar work speaks for itself - listen again.
all of this
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As and when NMA are in New York you get down there, see them live and see what you make of it then - and don't give me that no-one to go with nonsense, cos that's you and me both honey together with many others on here and as soon as you're in that gig there will be friends cos we're all one big happy family baby :-*
I flew from Nashville to NY for the 30th shows (by myself). Can't say I felt like I became part of the family that weekend, but I heard some really great music.
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As and when NMA are in New York you get down there, see them live and see what you make of it then - and don't give me that no-one to go with nonsense, cos that's you and me both honey together with many others on here and as soon as you're in that gig there will be friends cos we're all one big happy family baby :-*
I flew from Nashville to NY for the 30th shows (by myself). Can't say I felt like I became part of the family that weekend, but I heard some really great music.
I have actually met some really good friends through this band.One sat with me in hospital in Sweden until 5 in the morning. Christ! that takes a really kind, wonderful person. Plus some have really looked after me in my travels alone. They even put up with my anxiety and moments of panic. I get what AWOK is saying, i really do.
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Agree, Amandistan.
Never had a problem with going to gigs on my own, personally...
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I flew from Nashville to NY for the 30th shows (by myself). Can't say I felt like I became part of the family that weekend, but I heard some really great music.
Really?, that genuinely disappoints me and make me a bit sad :'(
New York cousins be a bit ashamed >:(
Tell you what, if I win the lottery and you lot will let me in I'll fly over myself and next NY gig we'll show 'em how it should be done ;D :-*
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Let's make a pact to paint the town red the next time the Boys play NYC.
Cheers
jc
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Let's make a pact to paint the town red the next time the Boys play NYC.
Cheers
jc
Could be the next bus tour we were on about. ???
UK, Europe, America. :)
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No idea how the hell I would ACTUALLY get my wolf whistled arse to New York but if I could that's you JC, me and RuckedOut sounds like we got a pyramid already ;D
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Count me in. NYC all the way maann :D
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Let's make a pact to paint the town red the next time the Boys play NYC.
Cheers
jc
Could be the next bus tour we were on about. ???
UK, Europe, America. :)
If ever an American bus tour happens, i can and will rent a van and drive if needed. I have experience in the American roads. I can drive a boat as well if ever they do a tour of everywhere along the very large Mississippi river. Though driving in NYC sounds like torture.
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Been to NY a couple of times, loved it... sounds like a dream gig to me.
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i also love the old nma- cd's more than the new ones, venom, sarcastic, straight to the point, but still i think its good that nma moving, trying new directions and maybe will come back one day to the previous time :D
in case of lennon vs. justin: i never loved lennon, don't know a lot about his songs, so i don't take a part in the discussion, but its great that you've your own opinion, we don't have to agree, but it makes topics interesting ::)
in case you never have been to an nma- gig: i'm a fan about 30 years too and i live in fcking israel, nobody knows the band here and 2 years ago i realised that i never saw them live. i'm not going alone to cinema/ pubs ect., but i decided that i have to see a gig. then 2013 i've been in koeln and it was one of my happiest moments in life, even if i was'nt sure how i'll feel there alone, it was awesome and i'm glad i did it and again there last show, koeln 2014.
space do it, you have to ;)! and maybe i'll come to nyc if they are there, i love this town, was the whole last september in brooklyn :D
lovely day and greetings to ny! 8)
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Amanda, I really like the idea of a US boat tour, that'd be travelling in style!
Cheers
jc
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And then take someone like Clint Eastwood -- he is making far better films now then he did back in the '80s. His work actually improved. I certainly am not nostalgiac for "Space Cowboys" or "The Rookie."
"Sudden impact", "Pale rider", "Bird" were made in the 80's and they were pretty good in my opinion, i also think that "Honkytonk man" is one of Eastwood's best films, and it was made in the 80's too (and i don't forget "Breezy" which is my favourite Eastwood movie probably, made not in the last decade but in the early 70's!!) ;)
High is my absolute favorite, It's a very "Hippie" album referring to the other thread. I am grateful that NMA are not stuck in the 80's. That would be dreadful.
Indeed. "High" is probably my favourite NMA album from the 2000's.
I can understand some of Space's complaints about NMA's last albums but on each one of these albums there are still enough gems and passion to make the band worthwile, in my opinion.
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For Christmas I received "Wine and Blood" and "High" (after one disappointing release after another, I decided to skip "High" upon its initial release). Like most NMA albums they will take time to get into, but I can already see they ain't going to be as mind-blowingly great as the early albums. So I listen to this newer stuff....and then run to my cabinet, grab an old NMA album, and listen to "No Rest For The Wicked" for the millionth time.
This happens with every NMA release -- the new stuff makes me listen to the old stuff. Because I got into the band in the early days I guess I am doomed to never enjoy the new releases as much as I see some here do. Those early albums had one great tune after another; the new albums...it is hard to find even one top song. I think the last great song the band had was "Long Goodbye" -- that goes back to 1998!
I'm doomed. I'll always get NMA albums, but the adrenaline rush I got from listening to a new NMA album is a thing of the past. Yes, I admit I played air-guitar in front of the mirror to many a NMA album. That sure didn't happen last year with the "Dog And Wolf" album. Ain't happening with "Wine and Blood" either.
Crucify me for complaining, but a NMA album release was as fantastic as your team winning the Super Bowl. You'd walk around with your shoulders straighter, your head higher, and you'd have attitude! Now I just get a little bit sadder with an NMA release, and I fall back into nostalgia and play the older records.
nah
i listen to the early stuff anyway
move along
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in case you never have been to an nma- gig: i'm a fan about 30 years too and i live in fcking israel, nobody knows the band here and 2 years ago i realised that i never saw them live. .. i decided that i have to see a gig. then 2013 i've been in koeln and it was one of my happiest moments in life, it was awesome and i'm glad i did it
space do it, you have to ;)! and maybe i'll come to nyc if they are there, i love this town, was the whole last september in brooklyn :D
lovely day and greetings to ny! 8)
Good stuff.
I suppose I may get around to seeing them after thirty years as you did. What keeps me away is the fact that I might see an entire two hour set of new songs that I really do not care for. Chances of me seeing them perform an old fave of mine like "Western Dream" would be practically nil. I didn't see the band back then when I should have. I can deal with it.
And New York is good. Cold as Mars here right now, we have an incredibly lousy basketball team here right now, but New York is still good.
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I think i would prefer traveling toward California to see NMA than New York. NYC is just too big, crowded and expensive. California is too probably but more spread out and warm.
However ,it does not matter because touring America causes them to lose too much money. And I completley understand. Plus it gives me an excuse to travel to other countries to see them.
But I like the new albums better as it's when i got into them. Also the fact that they seemed like hippies going back to that thread.